Been a good, productive day. Went and saw Captain America: Civil War, then came home and watched Guardians of the Galaxy, Deadpool, and Ant-Man. Good day.
As a big Deadpool fan, I thoroughly loved the movie. The first time was much funnier, as a lot of the jokes are based on shock or the unexpected, but it is still quite enjoyable the second time. I even understood why they slightly changed his origin story. I think it would have made more sense to say that the mutation mixed with the cancer, or at least explain that Deadpool's brain is in constant flux now, but honestly those are just nitpicks. They did the character proud. What caused your mixed feelings?
Pretty much the same reasons as you. I enjoy reading his comics so much and own quite a few. At first I was a bit upset that he didn't have some of the traits like his comic counter part (schizophrenia, the voices, etc), but I agree that they did the character proud as well. ♥
It's true, dueling voices would have been neat. Of all my comics and graphic novels, some of my top favorites have to be my Cable vs. Deadpool graphics, which are absolutely hilarious.
I have yet to read the duo together, so if you have any recommendations, please share! I've enjoyed his adventures with Spiderman. I feel their personalities mesh well with their wit.
Cable & Deadpool is hilarious for the opposite reason; they are completely opposite characters. They have history too. I believe Deadpool was actually introduced as a merc sent to kill Cable. I would absolutely start with the first few Cable & Deadpool graphics/collections. Not only are they great, but they encompass an ongoing storyline, so you lose a lot if you don't read them in order. Volume 1 is called If Looks Could Kill and I think it's just right. It is about both of them, so you will get to know a lot about Cable as well.
On the other hand though, one of the biggest appeals of the character is his complete ignoring of the Fourth Wall even as literally every other character obeys it, and the movie retained that beautifully. If you think about it, to everyone ELSE in-universe he must still seem really nuts! And anybody not aware of the Fourth Wall's existence would assume he were schizophrenic for that reason even WITHOUT the actual "voices" otherwise being there.
Also bit of Fridge Brilliance (if you know the term): aren't the voices depicted as The Little Yellow Boxes? Which...can only exist in the comic book format? Or am I wrong and they've done both? (I've read SOME Deadpool comics, but not a lot) I know he argues with his own narration/thought boxes though. Which you wouldn't be able to do if they weren't there.
It's also possible they're "easing" us into his insanity. But it's always worth noting too that the Deadpool/X-Men movieverse is literally its own universe as far as Marvel's multiverse is considered (they've actually stated this outright before, that the Marvel-made movies are one continuity, separate from the 616 universe of the comics, and that Fox's movies are also their own continuity, separate from both of those). He is, literally, not the same version of the same guy from the comics (616 or other universes), but an alternate-universe counterpart. IIRC, "Lady Deadpool" was also "sane" compared to 616 Deadpool, so there's actually precedent for versions of Wade being "less" crazy than the original from the comics.
I'm glad he was at least a LITTLE crazy though ;) Or he wouldn't feel like Deadpool.
i loved civil war. i haven't seen a movie in the theater in forever and it was SO GOOD. i want to see ant man. i don't know if i could handle deadpool. i also enjoyed guardians. ^^
As I told my brother just recently, you definitely have to watch Ant Man. It's probably the funniest of the lot so far, barring Deadpool. I'm sure you could handle Deadpool, though I obviously can't be sure of that. I would suggest you watch the Red Band 2 trailer for it on youtube. It gives a pretty accurate feel for the movie. If you can handle that, you can handle the movie no problem.
deadpool is funny?? i had thought it was dark...i will definitely have to look into it. and i LOVED ant man in civil war; he was hilarious! definitely going to watch that one soon.
Deadpool is quite violent but I would say that, in keeping with the comics, it's primarily a comedy.
The movie does have a dramatic arc but every step along the way is humorous, even if the humor is twisted. If you can take violence so long as there is humor to lighten the load, then Deadpool is fine. It's also VERY medium-aware; again in keeping with the comics, Deadpool's character is aware of and regularly ignores the Fourth Wall (though no other characters do...again, in keeping with the comics); in fact, there's a few jokes that are even funnier if you know the hell the production went through e.g. how difficult it was to convince Fox to make the movie and how the budget was cut towards the end of writing and production are actually given some very funny little nods.
I haven't seen Ant-Man yet because I'll be honest, I had heard they were cutting the Wasp out entirely and not knowing much else aside from "the Wasp was a huge part of Ant-Man and the Avengers in the comics, and keeps getting cut" that didn't help, given the MCU is SO dominated by male characters (who I generally love, but still! All those awesome female characters Marvel has, and they're barely used at all!). I had no real interest in the character otherwise and that little tidbit didn't help. But I will say seeing him in the CW movie (and knowing his sequel movie literally has The Wasp in the actual title) makes me want to see it. It seems like it could be fun, the character was fun, and I'm kind of a little regretful that I avoided it the first time around.
i'm not huge on violence, even with humor peppered in, so it sounds like a movie i *shouldn't* watch....hmmm. thank you for that excellent breakdown! :]
*nod* No problem! I mean, yeah it's a hilarious, great movie...but it is also EXTREMELY violent, especially as it's basically a Roaring Rampage of Revenge (which turns into Roaring Rampage of Rescue, later on) arc centered on a guy who was, from the start, a mercenary willing to kill people. So if violence really bothers you (even if it's generally to people who really "deserve" it), then you might not enjoy it nearly as much.
I don't know if I'd say it's quite Tarantino-level ultra violence, but it's somewhere in between there and "stuff you can't get away with in PG-13" (though I am pretty sure the R rating is actually for a combination of some sex scenes at the beginning, and "language", mostly. I'm consistently shocked at what DOES make it into PG-13 movies these days, as far as violence goes). Let's just say though that while I enjoyed it, I would totally understand if the violence was too much for a person. We all have different levels on tolerance on that front and it's definitely one that could be a bit much for some people. :) Glad I could help!
have you ever seen gross pointe blank? (i think i spelled it right.) that is a hilarious movie and one i can never watch again because *it's* too violent. something tells me deadpool would be worse. xD
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Date: 2016-07-25 05:04 pm (UTC)From:Also bit of Fridge Brilliance (if you know the term): aren't the voices depicted as The Little Yellow Boxes? Which...can only exist in the comic book format? Or am I wrong and they've done both? (I've read SOME Deadpool comics, but not a lot) I know he argues with his own narration/thought boxes though. Which you wouldn't be able to do if they weren't there.
It's also possible they're "easing" us into his insanity. But it's always worth noting too that the Deadpool/X-Men movieverse is literally its own universe as far as Marvel's multiverse is considered (they've actually stated this outright before, that the Marvel-made movies are one continuity, separate from the 616 universe of the comics, and that Fox's movies are also their own continuity, separate from both of those). He is, literally, not the same version of the same guy from the comics (616 or other universes), but an alternate-universe counterpart. IIRC, "Lady Deadpool" was also "sane" compared to 616 Deadpool, so there's actually precedent for versions of Wade being "less" crazy than the original from the comics.
I'm glad he was at least a LITTLE crazy though ;) Or he wouldn't feel like Deadpool.
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Date: 2016-07-25 05:14 pm (UTC)From:The movie does have a dramatic arc but every step along the way is humorous, even if the humor is twisted. If you can take violence so long as there is humor to lighten the load, then Deadpool is fine. It's also VERY medium-aware; again in keeping with the comics, Deadpool's character is aware of and regularly ignores the Fourth Wall (though no other characters do...again, in keeping with the comics); in fact, there's a few jokes that are even funnier if you know the hell the production went through e.g. how difficult it was to convince Fox to make the movie and how the budget was cut towards the end of writing and production are actually given some very funny little nods.
I haven't seen Ant-Man yet because I'll be honest, I had heard they were cutting the Wasp out entirely and not knowing much else aside from "the Wasp was a huge part of Ant-Man and the Avengers in the comics, and keeps getting cut" that didn't help, given the MCU is SO dominated by male characters (who I generally love, but still! All those awesome female characters Marvel has, and they're barely used at all!). I had no real interest in the character otherwise and that little tidbit didn't help. But I will say seeing him in the CW movie (and knowing his sequel movie literally has The Wasp in the actual title) makes me want to see it. It seems like it could be fun, the character was fun, and I'm kind of a little regretful that I avoided it the first time around.
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Date: 2016-07-25 08:42 pm (UTC)From:I don't know if I'd say it's quite Tarantino-level ultra violence, but it's somewhere in between there and "stuff you can't get away with in PG-13" (though I am pretty sure the R rating is actually for a combination of some sex scenes at the beginning, and "language", mostly. I'm consistently shocked at what DOES make it into PG-13 movies these days, as far as violence goes). Let's just say though that while I enjoyed it, I would totally understand if the violence was too much for a person. We all have different levels on tolerance on that front and it's definitely one that could be a bit much for some people. :) Glad I could help!
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